uživatel eliminován | 17. 10. 2013, 16:58:52

Tady 3003 je dobrou úkázkou toho, že za ty dva tisíce let jsme se opravdu nikam dál v myšlení neposunuli.

EL.pH | 17. 10. 2013, 16:49:27 | více příspěvků | napsat uživateli

Jinak tady kolegové 3030 důkazy už mají.

http://orgo-net.blogspot.cz/2013/10/vedci-vyfotografovali-lidskou-dusi-jak.html

3003 | 17. 10. 2013, 16:44:55 | více příspěvků | napsat uživateli

> Byl_sem_M-Cristiane na to žádný argument není, na to člověk musí přijít sám.Sám sis dokázal že na to nemáš, když chceš hmatatelný důkaz.

3003 | 17. 10. 2013, 16:12:07 | více příspěvků | napsat uživateli

Duše žije i bez těla.Většina lidí jsou ale tak ponoření v materialismu že si to neuvědomují.Docela je ale chápu když celý život vyrůstají v přesvědčení že to co nejde vidět, změřit, zvážit neexistuje a nikdy nezažili nic jiného.Jsou na tom jak zvířata které vyrůstají v zoo a tak si ani neuvědomují že jsou vězněné.Člověk je odrazem společnosti v které vyrůstá.Když bude vyrůstat v muslimské zemi, taky bude z něho muslim.

3003 | 17. 10. 2013, 15:34:27 | více příspěvků | napsat uživateli

Socrates was about to die. The final moments were approaching; the poison was being ground to kill
him. He kept asking, "It is getting late, how long will it take to grind the poison?"
His friends were crying and saying to him, "Are you crazy? We want you to live a little longer. We have
bribed the person who is grinding the poison; we have persuaded him to go slowly."
Socrates went out and said to the man who was grinding the poison, "You are taking too long. It seems
you are not very skilled. Are you very new to this? Have you never ground it before? Have you never
given poison to a condemned person?"
The man replied, "I have been giving poison my whole life, but I have never seen a crazy man like you
before. Why are you in so much of a hurry? I am grinding it slowly so that you may breathe a little more,
live a little longer, remain in life a little more. You keep talking like a crazy man, saying it is getting late.
Why are you in such a hurry to die?"
Socrates said, "I am in a great hurry because I want to see death. I want to see what death is like. And I
also want to see, even when death has happened, whether I survive or not. If I don't survive, then the
whole affair is finished -- and if I do survive, then death is finished. In fact, I want to see who will die with
death -- will death die or will I die? I want to see whether death will survive or whether I will survive. But
how can I see this unless I am alive?"
Socrates was given the poison. His friends began to mourn; they were not in their right senses. And what
was Socrates doing? He was telling them, "The poison has reached up to my knees. Up to the knees my
legs are totally dead -- I will not even know if you cut them off. But my friends, let me tell you, even
though my legs are dead, I am still alive. This means one thing is certain -- I was not my legs. I am still
here, I am totally here. Nothing within me has faded yet." Socrates continued, "Now both my legs are
gone; up to my thighs everything is finished. I wouldn't feel anything if you cut me right up to the thighs.
But I am still here! And here are my friends who go on crying!"
Socrates is saying, "Don't cry. Watch! Here is an opportunity for you: a man is dying and informing you
that he is still alive. You may cut off my legs entirely -- even then I won't be dead, even then I will still
remain. My hands are also drifting away; my hands will die too. Ah! How many times I identified myself
with these hands -- the same hands that are leaving now -- but I am still here."
And, like this, Socrates continues talking while dying. He says, "Slowly, everything is becoming peaceful,
everything is sinking, but I am still intact. After a while I may not be able to inform you, but don't let that
make you think I am no more. Because, if I am still here, even after losing so much of my body, how then
would an end come to me if a little more of the body is lost? I may not be able to inform you -- because
that is only possible through the body -- but still I will remain." And at the very last moment he says,
"Now, perhaps I am telling you the final thing: my tongue is failing. I won't be able to speak a single
word further, but still I am saying, 'I exist'." Until the final moment of death he kept saying, "I am still
alive."

uživatel eliminován | 14. 03. 2008, 21:13:46

Tuhle bachorku uz vi snad kazdy, ne? Jinak ten pritel mel pomer s jeho zenou !2!

uživatel eliminován | 14. 03. 2008, 20:42:07

moc hezké a moudré....

Nathallka | 14. 03. 2008, 20:21:55 | více příspěvků | napsat uživateli

sokrates byl asi kaneček co?:D!1291!